It goes without saying I love T-Buckets, but I’m especially fond of what’s known as the 1915 T-Bucket body. For good reasons, which we’ll try to cover here, there are many misconceptions about the 1915 T-Bucket body. And, just in case you didn’t even know the 1915 T-Bucket body existed or how it’s different from what’s known as the 1923 T-Bucket body then you’ve come to the right place.
First, though, why are we even talking about the 1915 T-Bucket body? Aren’t all T-Bucket bodies the same? No, they’re not. And here’s why.
If you look at 100 different T-Buckets you might notice that maybe one of them looks a bit more sleek than the others. It’s lower on the sides, higher in the back and somehow the cowl is pinched down a bit so that it helps emphasize the engine, rather than hovering above it. That’s probably a 1915 T-Bucket body.
Take a look at the dimensions and see for yourself.
You’ll also note that the 1915 T-Bucket body is 3 inches narrower in the body and 4 inches more narrow at the firewall than the 1923 T-Bucket body. Therein lies the rub — pun intended. You see, many people find even the standard 1923 T-Bucket body too confining. Therefore, the much more diminutive 1915 T-Bucket body is ruled out of consideration, especially for big guys. But if you place greater emphasis on how your ride looks than on creature comforts then the 1915 T-Bucket body is the only choice!
However, what’s known today as the 1915 T-Bucket body as shown at the top in Gary Percival‘s cool ride and the California Custom Roadsters dimensions below it really isn’t close to the original 1915 T-Bucket body. Get ready for a fun, short Model T Ford history lesson.
1915 T-Bucket Body: First Half of 20th Century
The photo above is an actual 1915 Ford Model T on display at the Petersen Automotive Museum in Los Angeles. OK, the museum lighting sucks for taking good photographs, but it’s still easy to see that on the original 1915 Model T the sides are not as low and the back is not as high as in the California Custom Roadsters 1915 T-Bucket body dimensions.
However, the 1915 Model T body is quite different in the cowl than the 1923 T-Bucket body. Here’s the story. Model T’s from 1915 to 1922 used what’s referred to as a “low cowl” because the earlier years had a shorter radiator and, therefore, the cowl had to narrow down to meet the hood. From 1923 to 1925, Model T’s had a taller radiator and employed what’s known as the “high cowl”.
This photo shows a 1923 style high cowl on top which attaches to a higher and wider firewall, while the 1915 style low cowl below it shows why the shorter and more narrow cowl does a better job of “hugging” a V-8 engine placed in front of it.
The photo above shows a 1923 Model T with the high cowl. You’ll also note that the body reveal that follows the top of the door line is more parallel to the ground and does not extend as far or curve down as much as on a 1915 Model T. With that said, let’s get on with some pretty cool hot rod history I’ll bet you never knew before!
1915 T-Bucket Body: Don Oaks Creates a Phenomenon
Back in the early 60s there were still laws in Southern California requiring fenders on cars over 1500 pounds. A young El Segundo firefighter and L.A. Roadsters member named Don Oaks had a cool ’29 roadster with a Cadillac engine which had been built by Lou Schorsch, who was a rather notable hot rodder in the day.
Don, like many L.A. Roadster members at the time, wasn’t a fan of fenders, and the big Caddy engine in the steel Model A contributed to a total weight close to 3000 pounds — resulting in numerous “no fenders” tickets. Don decided to end that problem!
Don recognized that the lightest weight hot rods on the street in the early 60s were fiberglass bodied T-Buckets. So, the young hot rod builder went on a weight reduction quest like no hot rodder had done before.
Starting with a clean sheet of paper, Don decided on powering his new fiberglass T-Bucket hot rod with the lightest weight mass-production V8 in the world: the 215 cu. in. aluminum Buick. Continuing the light weight theme, he also chose an aluminum transmission from an Olds F-85. For a relatively narrow rear axle, Don found the 1962 Ford Falcon’s 7-1/4″, 4-lug version suitable. Although designed for the Falcon’s puny 85 horsepower, it was going into a hot rod with a target weight almost half that of the then tiny Falcon economy car.
When it came to building his T-Bucket, as an L.A. Roadsters Charter Member, Don had previous access to both the Ivo T and the Norm Grabowski T. Perhaps more significantly, Don was also exposed to the T-Bucket built by lesser know, but also influential, Roadsters member, Martin Hollmann, which happened to use a steel 1915 Ford runabout body.
While the relatively new Buick aluminum V8 was perhaps only slightly smaller in physical dimensions compared to a Chevy small block, it was quite a bit smaller than the Cadillac and big Buick engines used in the Grabowski and Ivo T-Buckets, respectively. So, Don took his measurements from them and then scaled to achieve a balance between the two to best show off the little aluminum Buick.
He made another somewhat unconventional decision: to use a 1915 T body rather than what was the standard hot rod fiberglass body at that time, the fiberglass 1923 T-Bucket. Back then, before he acquired Cal Automotive, Tex Collins owned a company called Ford Duplicators and they made a low cowl fiberglass 1915 T body primarily for Model T restorers. Don chose the ’15 T body because he felt that the pinched ’15 cowl, which was a little over 3 inches narrower than the ’23 and also shorter would better align with the Buick engine.
But after fitting the body on the frame, the cowl was still too large and awkward looking in Don’s eyes and as you’ll note from the photo above the top of the carb air scoop is below the cowl and the tops of the valve covers were several inches below the body’s side reveal lines.
Don felt he could do better to get a much more pleasing appearance and he worked with the best available hot rod design tools at the time: photographs which were cut and pasted to get the desired proportions. It looked like about a 3 inch section would do the job. To do this, Don took a short 2×4″ piece of lumber to which he drove through two long nails, three inches apart and sharpened. He then used his homemade pantograph to follow along the body reveal lines and the firewall, scribing where his cuts would be made to section the 1915 T-Bucket body.
The resulting fiberglass work very successfully framed and highlighted the little Buick engine, and also had the added benefit, with the unsectioned back of the body looking somewhat similar to the very popular “Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride” cars at Disneyland.
Don went on to finish his newly redesigned 1915 T-Bucket with 12-spoke American Mags up front and special 4-lug Halibrands on the rear.
Continuing to keep weight at a minimum, the car had no dash as original ’15 T’s did not either. Instead, Don relied on a Motometer on the radiator to keep tabs on temperature and an oil pressure gauge mounted on the back of the intake manifold.
With a 5-1/2 gallon fuel tank mounted up front and a relatively roomy pickup bed which he nicely molded into the body, Don had succeeded in building a 1225 pound 1915 T-Bucket roadster, which it was registered as, and a legal fenderless hot rod.
Not only had Don achieved his objective of creating a truly street-legal fenderless roadster, but he also created an entirely new T-Bucket profile in the then-developing T-Bucket field.
The Don Oaks 1915 T-Bucket Body Legacy Grows
Don later sold his 1915 T-Bucket to a young Bob Reisner, who was described as a 21-year-old, self-employed garage owner when the car was featured in the February, 1966 issue of Popular Hot Rodding magazine, virtually unchanged from how Don had finished it in April, 1964, with the exception of the fuel tank being relocated and a brass buggy horn being added.
As a matter of fact, that 1966 issue of PHR with Reisner’s T-Bucket (built by Don) was one that helped really set the hook on my lifelong love of T-Buckets.
In the PHR feature the little T still sported the same California license plates issued to Don when he built it.
The little Buick engine was the same with its very cool no-name finned valve covers. (By the way, Don would like to find a set of the same valve covers today for a recreation he’s building. When he originally purchased them it was from a nondescript Los Angeles warehouse. He learned that his originals later ended up on Dan Woods’ “Ice Truck” show car, but you have to read on to learn how that came about. If you have a pair let us know and we’ll put you in touch with Don).
Now, the plot thickens.
It turns out that Bob Reisner, shown in the above Petersen photo in the T he bought from Don, went on to start a business called California Show Cars with Jay Ohrberg (Mr. Roadster).
And at about the same time Don Oaks was building his T-Bucket a young Dan Woods was building his famous “Milk Truck” show car.
Long story-short, Bob Reisner ended up trading the T-Bucket to Dan for the Milk Truck. Bob could then better pursue his featured show cars endeavor and Dan Woods got a nice hot rod that he could better use to cruise with his Early Times car club friends.
In fact, the T-Bucket was still sporting the original Don Oaks “PCY 366” California license plate after being owned by Reisner and Woods.
By August, 1970 Rod & Custom was previewing Dan’s “Ice Truck” follow up to the Milk Truck and in the October, 1970 issue featured the little 1915 T-Bucket as “The Old Woods’ Machine” just to show that when it came to his daily driver Dan wasn’t limited to exotic suspended C-Cabs.
By then, the most significant external change Dan had made to the Don Oaks T-Bucket was to replace the rear Halibrand mags with his personal favorite rear rims which were Buick wires he had widened to 12 1/2 inches.
On the interior, Dan replaced the T wheel on the vertical column with one of the unique Woods/J&J Chassis 7 inch diameter by 17-inch deep dish steering wheels.
Dan enjoyed the little T-Bucket for many years and hot rod builder and photographer Sherm Porter captured the T (now painted red) among other T’s in the above outdoor car show photo. By the way, the injected nailhead T of San Diego Prowlers member, Gary Rickle, in the foreground and the pink one in the background show the big difference in the cowl height between the ’23 and the ’15 bodies.
In fact, Dan Woods and the now red T-Bucket found themselves on the cover of the June, 1967 issue of Rod & Custom in the midst of an Early Times car club outing. Shortly thereafter, Dan was dispatched to serve our country in Vietnam.
After returning home and spending some time at J&J Chassis, Dan open his Contemporary Carriage Works in the early 1970s, with a focus on building unique, high-end T-Buckets both as turnkey cars and in kit form.
Based on his own love for the now stylized 1915 T-Bucket body on his own T, Dan then had a mold made and began selling the cut down 1915 T-Bucket body as originally built by Don Oaks ten years earlier. This began the popularity of the uniquely cool looking 1915 T-Bucket body and is the event that popularized what we now know today as a 1915 T-Bucket. Eventually, Dan would move on to other creative fabrication endeavors and Contemporary Carriage Works ceased to exist.
After Contemporary Carriage Works ceased operations the distinctive 1915 T-Bucket body could then be obtained from California Custom Roadsters, whose body is shown in the photos above and below.
The late Bill Keifer and Dan Woods, like many Southern California rod builders at the time, worked together from time to time to help each other out on projects and while the exact details are lost in time it’s my understanding that the current CCR 1915 T-Bucket body is either produced from the original Contemporary Carriage Works moulds or a plug was pulled from one of the CCW bodies.
Although no longer in their catalog, the 1915 T-Bucket body is still available from California Custom Roadsters on a special order basis (2-4 week lead time) and lists for $895. Of course, the older body design is nothing like the high quality bodies CCR now sells and comes without floor or firewall and, typical of older bodies, has a mould parting line down the center that requires some finishing work. But, if you want the look, to my knowledge it’s the only place to go.
Back before Total Performance was acquired by Speedway Motors, Total produced a “somewhat similar” appearing body known as their Anniversary T, which was actually a more roomy T-Bucket body that had been smoothed of body reveals. It was chopped 3 inches on the sides, has a 2-1/2 inch lowered cowl section and 3 inch raised rear with a slanted back pickup bed, as noted in the illustration below.
Compared to the standard Total Performance 1923 T-Bucket body it had the roominess of that design with the swoopy looks of the 1915 T-Bucket body style. Unfortunately, I understand it is no longer available from Speedway.
But, if you live in the U.K. the good news is that a 1915 T-Bucket body source exists.
The above photos show the 1915 T-Bucket body available from Miller’s Speed Shop in South Wales.
That pretty much leaves your choices today for a 1915 T-Bucket body to either purchase one from California Custom Roadsters or to section your own standard T-Bucket body like I did using the valuable information I gained from Bob Hamilton’s 5-hour, 3-DVD set titled, “Fiberglass Body Modifications“.
From my perspective we owe a huge debt of gratitude to Don Oaks for the creativity he exercised 50 years ago in pleasing his own design aspirations that has given us a now timeless variation on the classic T-Bucket, the 1915 T-Bucket body.
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Dear John
I think i nailed the issue with Don Oaks’s 215 buick finned/no name valve covers.
I made a little of digging and I found this:
apparently they where a mail order catalogue option offered by International Motor Cars.
A Fellow named Dennis O’Brian is currently producing replicas.
The only difference that I can notice is the finned breather cap instead of the sleek ones on Don’s car: something aftermarket will “cure” this minor issue.
Please pass the info to Don and to the other people intesested.
https://www.obrientruckers.com/buick-rover-215.html
Cheers.
Alessio Rovere – Udine province – Italy
P.S.: beautiful and useful site, compliments!
I am crazy over “T” Buckets. At 74 I am salivating about building one!!!
I used to use that t-bucket (or Bob’s Bugatti) to fetch burgers for the shop in Santa Barbara when I worked for Reisner at East West Motors. (Bob died several years ago here in Arizona)
Thanks for that input, GBC. It must have made those errands fun 🙂 By the way, if you might have any pics from back in the day we’d love to see them and maybe be able to update the story. Thanks again.
This site is an absolute wealth of information that’s both entertaining and inspiring.
Thanks again, Bill. It’s a labor of love. All we ask is you spread the word by telling your friends.
Great article about that Tbucket I built a Tbucket in the late seventies I will try and post a pic also where is that t bucket today the first one terry brown built
Thanks Lou. Would love to see a pic of your 70s T-Bucket. As for the whereabouts of Terry’s original T-Bucket, the best guess is somewhere outside the U.S.A. I’m hoping this article might somehow find its way to either the current owner or someone who knows him so they can post an update for us.
Great article, especially as I lived in NC at the time and was an early member of the NSRA, going to runs at Gatlinburg, Winston-Salem, etc. I clearly remember the “T” in the article.
How about a short article listing the currently available “T” bodies and where they are manufactured. Maybe even frames, too!
It would be much appreciated.
Thank you, so much, for the updates, and the insights into the history of these great rides.
Thanks Steve. Glad it brought back some memories. Your idea for a roundup article on bodies and frames is a good one and I’ll try to work it into the schedule.
Outstanding article! I remember seeing some of the old T Buckets in Hot Rod magazine when I was very little in the late 60’s. They have always been my Dream ride.I will be using your frame plans to build my own Bucket in the next year or so. Thank you for all the Wonderful information.I would rather fab as much as I can myself, because ” I built it myself” has gotten very diluted in the last 40 years.
Thanks Steve. Be sure to send us some updates as your project moves along.
Very informative article. Great work. thank you. I have been a t-bucket fan for many years. Built my first one in 1969 right after coming home from Vietnam. I still have a 1915 C-cab paddy wagon that I drive everywhere.
Cool article and thanks for the picture at top. If I were to do it again I would not use a 15 body or add 3″ of wood and upolstery on each side. When my kids were young I could only take 2 of the 3 kids and even then it was TIGHT. I would like to have a full size 23 body and sit low like a 27 Zipper body
Great article on these fabulous cars. A very important part of HOT ROD history. And don’t forget Starbird’s Big /Little T by Monogram , which was built by every enthusiastic model builder of the day. One could go on and on with some of the great examples built , both life size and in model form. Just love them. …. RJW ….
Thanks for the history lesson. Have many of the old mags and the issue shown is one of them. May be the reason that I have a bucket of my own!! Thanks again, Carp
Just loved the article. The last “T” that I built from scratch was a speedway body on a frame hand built- – -with your book! Considering that there were a few other “23s running around, I licensed mine, after bunches of research, as a 1925. Corvette yellow with a Buckskin interior. The car was built for $ 4,765.00.
I did some horse trading and ended up with a freshly built 400 HP 350 SBC. The paint and interior was done by a guy here in Amarillo, Tom Perry, who did a fantastic job. That was the most expensive part of the build. I deviated a bit form the plans and ran a 106 inch wheel base- – -much better for running I-40. At 68 years young, I’ve got the bug to build another from scratch.
Nice article -well done and the pictures very nice.
I like how you can create almost anything in fiberglass. Ed Roth,Von Dutch, Gene Winfield, Tommy Ivo, Grawbowski, Stan Betz and many others have shown us it’s not too late to be creative and to go for it and have fun! Mikey
Speedway still has anniversary t in their catalogs.
I Am in the designing stage right now to build a custom c cab simular to the famous Nick butler “revenge” c cab. I will be building a ccr frame. Plans just arrived in the mail today. I will order the 1915 t bucket body from them in the spring. Then the resin will be flying to create a one off 1915 c cab. I love tree design eminent on these bodies. I find the history fun on it. Thank you very much for sharing. Jody
Most excellent article! Thanks!
Thank you for such an interesting read. My son bought a 23 Bird kit that was in pieces in a backyard for 600 bucks. He, a high school buddy and I put it together. What a blast it was! Some day we hope to do it again.